Insomniac said:

> yet if you where in pretty much any other Country you would have not even received a phone call.

This is true, but then I am not in another country. A phone call would only say "destroy everything you have" They don't call - they knock :-)

Thank you for the link. I did look it over but in my opinion does not have much to do with privacy or proxies. I have long been aware of RiSCiSO and have known some people in the group from many years ago. I also heard about what was going on but never read about the case directly until now from the doj link that you posted.

I know how things work in these cases and some of the legal loop holes that they need to go through to bring a case to court. From what I read it seems that they are only trying to make the defendant's look like 'bad' people by talking about the bouncers and maybe adding to their case when talking about encryption.

My warez days are long gone - I don't even think about that stuff any more.
The most of what I see going on is either credit card fraud or child porn when it comes to them hunting down people. I wonder how much their "CW" or host had to play in this for them to bring it to trial. They can't always include everyone or everyone from other countries. It all depends on laws and relations in other countries. If they include too many members it would end up costing them way too much time and money to bring the case to trial because they would need to deal with each defense lawyer and stacks of paper for each. I am sure that they just skimmed the top and snagged who was there for these reasons. Again I do not see why they are wasting their time with this to start with. I do not see too much to do with privacy invasion here, but if you want to point out some issues it will help me to broaden my thinking. I seen almost the same thing in "Ismael Genao's" case.

http://www.thejournalnews.com/apps/p...503190321/1018

This guy ran a couple f-serve's on IRC. Data was sniffed that compiled to hundreds of reams of paper. There were hundreds of people that could have been put on trial. Even one guy that was looking for a "boyfriend" for his 6 year old daughter. The only one that they went after was Genao. This was an involved case where different agents were brought in from different parts of the country to testify or to be expert witnesses. There was months of dedicated research just to be sure that these charges would stick even before serving a warrent. If they were to go after everyone involved it would have cost way too much time and money. But the fserve is down which is a good thing.

In my case I would rather talk personally or in private mail if you wish me to go into more detail on what happened to me. I have a few other experiences to share on these topics as well if you are interested. Some of experience and knowledge that I have on the privacy topic are not well known or publicized yet.

ie